Originally by: Etho Demerzel

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This has nothing to do with the subjective concept of happiness. It has to do with statistics. I am still to see a single article from ISD about a conflict where BoB, Kenny or whatever they are called these days had their asses kicked.

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Originally by: Cippalippus Primus

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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1. The conspiracy theory about why news gets published? - Well, it takes somebody to submit a news lead. Spamming CAOD doesn't count.

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This is what I thought too, but apparently there are people who submitted news leads about events not-so-favourable for BoB and they have been ignored- or the news haven't been published. If they aren't lying about the fact that they submitted news leads, of course, which might as well be; but I doubt it.

I'm against conspiracy theories but I'm glad this thread came out. Anyway, ISD are supposed to be neutral like CCP in their news reporting but that isn't evidently the case, wether there is bias or simple lack of knowledge I don't know, but at the end of the day the news reported aren't neutral neither in their style nor in their content; not to mention timing.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i think you may be mistaking the intentional delegitimation of an outlet for whining but w/e nbd~

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Originally by: Easley Thames

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However, this could all be due to a shortage of volunteers, a problem shared by non-official eve journalists. I've noticed that Eve Tribune, as an example, seems to have a lack of diversity in its coverage as well, although they do actually report on the front-page, earth-shattering events when at times ISD seems to be playing a different game entirely. Part of ISD's problem is that it has to report on fictional in-game stories for "flavor" and roleplay-fodder, but there also seems to be a sense of disconnection at times. It would be interesting to go back and compare ISD reports to the biggest events of 2008.

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Originally by: Amiable Quinn

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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda

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Originally by: Professor Dumbledore

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We had a person submit about 10 news leads none of which were published.

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Veto has been submitting news leads for years and often doesn't get a story about awesome we are (although we did recently and enjoyed it).

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Veto - small non-space holding group, specializes in small gang pvp, approximately 200 members
Goonswarm - largest alliance in the game, held/holds enormous swaths of territory, currently holds most valuable territory in the game, Regularly has fleet battles involving hundreds/thousands of pilots, approximately 5000 members (not counting allies)

Who gets more coverage in ISD? Veto.

This isn't meant as a slam on your play-style but Veto has gotten far more coverage over the years than Goonswarm, even though at the alliance politics level you guys are a non-entity. That seems to show evidence of some pretty clear bias.

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Originally by: isqander

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Edited by: isqander on 21/03/2009 12:57:58

Originally by: Rodj Blake

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What's the bigger achievement - taking down a POS when you have 200 members, or taking down a POS when you have 5000 members?

Also, if you were to count the number of mentions in the news that the Goons have had over the years, I'm sure that it's a higher number than the number of mentions that Veto have had.

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Way to miss the point. They're supposed to report news. Important events. Galaxy changing upheavals. Not post a bunch of chestbeating reports about stuff that you might consider an "achievement." If they followed your logic ISD would be reporting how Joe Schmoe soloed a lvl 3 in his crusader.

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Originally by: Verone

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Awesome Veto Flaming, A++++++

Would read again.

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Originally by: Amiable Quinn

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Holy wall of text.

1. I had no intent to disrespect Veto, I was using them as an example to illustrate the bias in coverage. They have been nice folks to me in the past so they are cool in my book.

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Originally by: Amiable Quinn

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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Have you actually compared the number of mentions of Veto in the news with the number of mentions that the Goons have received?

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Nice try, that's not the point I was making. The point is that a relatively small organization has had numerous stories they submitted accepted, whereas goons have had relatively few and in general those stories have little input from us/discussion of our verison of events.

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In any event, mission accomplished, as it appears ISD took our concerns seriously (evidenced by the recent well-written and balanced news article describing the events occuring in 49-). So thanks for keeping this in the public eye.

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Oran Sound

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Edited by: Oran Sound on 23/03/2009 17:00:46
There should be an article on the recent name change of the Kenzoku Alliance. Should I also e-mail this to the ISD, CCP Mitnal?

Its a cool event, being the first recorded name change of an alliance.

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Seconded.

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Biggest news since bob was disbanded. (Was that reported?)

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Originally by: Xaen

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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Biggest news since bob was disbanded. (Was that reported?)

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You know full well that it was.

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No, I don't. Care to link it?

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